Scrobble an internet radio station?

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- Kerensky97 said...
- Moderator
- 13 Dec 2007, 22:53
mjdunn said:
Just thought I'd add my voice here and say that I'd love to have the option to scrobble internet radio if I so wished. I've recently started using the excellent PandoraFM and I'd say that I discovered at least as much new music through Pandora as I have from Last.fm's streams. Having the music I listen to on Pandora scrobbled (even if I don't like all of the tracks it plays) hasn't been detrimental to the quality of my Last.fm charts at all- quite the opposite in fact, I'm hearing new bands and genres I like left right and centre at the moment and they're all feeding in to my Last.fm recommendations.

I've also been listening to radio streams like WOXY and SomaFM recently, and I'd love for this music to be added to my Last.fm profile as well. If it's possible for Last.fm to do this then surely it could be added as an opt in/out feature?
Would this happen to be how you got artists on your charts such as:
Elvis Presley (Holiday)
David Bowie & Bing Crosby (Holiday)
Carpenters (Holiday)
Perry Como (Holiday)
Dean Martin (Holiday)

Or is from your personally tagged music collection?

All comments reflect the views of the poster and not of last.fm or it's management.

MusicBrainz How-To - Server StatusScrobbling?

[quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]mjdunn[/user][/b] said: Just thought I'd add my voice here and say that I'd love to have the option to scrobble internet radio if I so wished. I've recently started using the excellent PandoraFM and I'd say that I discovered at least as much new music through Pandora as I have from Last.fm's streams. Having the music I listen to on Pandora scrobbled (even if I don't like all of the tracks it plays) hasn't been detrimental to the quality of my Last.fm charts at all- quite the opposite in fact, I'm hearing new bands and genres I like left right and centre at the moment and they're all feeding in to my Last.fm recommendations. I've also been listening to radio streams like WOXY and SomaFM recently, and I'd love for this music to be added to my Last.fm profile as well. If it's possible for Last.fm to do this then surely it could be added as an opt in/out feature?[/quote] Would this happen to be how you got artists on [url=http://www.last.fm/user/mjdunn/charts/?charttype=recenttracks]your charts[/url] such as: [artist]Elvis Presley (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]David Bowie & Bing Crosby (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Carpenters (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Perry Como (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Dean Martin (Holiday)[/artist] Or is from your personally tagged music collection?[/quote]

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- josecharts said...
- User
- 14 Dec 2007, 23:01
Kerensky97 said:
mjdunn said:
Just thought I'd add my voice here and say that I'd love to have the option to scrobble internet radio if I so wished. I've recently started using the excellent PandoraFM and I'd say that I discovered at least as much new music through Pandora as I have from Last.fm's streams. Having the music I listen to on Pandora scrobbled (even if I don't like all of the tracks it plays) hasn't been detrimental to the quality of my Last.fm charts at all- quite the opposite in fact, I'm hearing new bands and genres I like left right and centre at the moment and they're all feeding in to my Last.fm recommendations.

I've also been listening to radio streams like WOXY and SomaFM recently, and I'd love for this music to be added to my Last.fm profile as well. If it's possible for Last.fm to do this then surely it could be added as an opt in/out feature?
Would this happen to be how you got artists on your charts such as:
Elvis Presley (Holiday)
David Bowie & Bing Crosby (Holiday)
Carpenters (Holiday)
Perry Como (Holiday)
Dean Martin (Holiday)

Or is from your personally tagged music collection?

Last.fm also listed wrong tagged songs on their streams...

[quote][b][user]josecharts[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]mjdunn[/user][/b] said: Just thought I'd add my voice here and say that I'd love to have the option to scrobble internet radio if I so wished. I've recently started using the excellent PandoraFM and I'd say that I discovered at least as much new music through Pandora as I have from Last.fm's streams. Having the music I listen to on Pandora scrobbled (even if I don't like all of the tracks it plays) hasn't been detrimental to the quality of my Last.fm charts at all- quite the opposite in fact, I'm hearing new bands and genres I like left right and centre at the moment and they're all feeding in to my Last.fm recommendations. I've also been listening to radio streams like WOXY and SomaFM recently, and I'd love for this music to be added to my Last.fm profile as well. If it's possible for Last.fm to do this then surely it could be added as an opt in/out feature?[/quote] Would this happen to be how you got artists on [url=http://www.last.fm/user/mjdunn/charts/?charttype=recenttracks]your charts[/url] such as: [artist]Elvis Presley (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]David Bowie & Bing Crosby (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Carpenters (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Perry Como (Holiday)[/artist] [artist]Dean Martin (Holiday)[/artist] Or is from your personally tagged music collection?[/quote] Last.fm also listed wrong tagged songs on their streams... [/quote]

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- Kerensky97 said...
- Moderator
- 15 Dec 2007, 00:49
True, but if you contact support and tell them their radio is wrong they'll fix it. Plus there is a moderation system in the works where users will be able to fix tracks directly themselves.

All comments reflect the views of the poster and not of last.fm or it's management.

MusicBrainz How-To - Server StatusScrobbling?

[quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: True, but if you contact support and tell them their radio is wrong they'll fix it. Plus there is a moderation system in the works where users will be able to fix tracks directly themselves.[/quote]

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- IanAR said...
- User
- 15 Dec 2007, 01:32
[OT] Wrong Tagged Tracks on Last.FM Streams

josecharts said:
Last.fm also listed wrong tagged songs on their streams...
Kerensky97 said:
True, but if you contact support and tell them their radio is wrong they'll fix it. Plus there is a moderation system in the works where users will be able to fix tracks directly themselves.
Good news about a moderation system!

Will this enable uses to correct the track name of remixes uploaded to the main track name?

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[quote][b][user]IanAR[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]josecharts[/user][/b] said: Last.fm also listed wrong tagged songs on their streams... [/quote] [quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: True, but if you contact support and tell them their radio is wrong they'll fix it. Plus there is a moderation system in the works where users will be able to fix tracks directly themselves.[/quote] Good news about a moderation system! Will this enable uses to correct the track name of remixes uploaded to the main track name? Will remix track naming be in accordance with [group]MusicBrainz.org[/group] conventions? - Ian[/quote]

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- josecharts said...
- User
- 15 Dec 2007, 03:30
I have work on radio stations for almost a decade and if a listener call or email the radio to fix titles in the website or the spell we used to too.
But thanks for your answer, now i am happy that moderations are back as we had back in 2004. that was great :D

[quote][b][user]josecharts[/user][/b] said: I have work on radio stations for almost a decade and if a listener call or email the radio to fix titles in the website or the spell we used to too. But thanks for your answer, now i am happy that moderations are back as we had back in 2004. that was great :D[/quote]

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- CopaceticOpus said...
- User
- 17 Dec 2007, 22:19
I listen to music at work all day, streamed from my personal mp3 streaming server. It's all tagged properly by me, but since it's streamed I can't scrobble it.

Please reconsider this. If a song is playing with the artist and title specified, it should be scrobbled regardless of how it is being played.

[quote][b][user]CopaceticOpus[/user][/b] said: I listen to music at work all day, streamed from my personal mp3 streaming server. It's all tagged properly by me, but since it's streamed I can't scrobble it. Please reconsider this. If a song is playing with the artist and title specified, it should be scrobbled regardless of how it is being played.[/quote]

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- nelamvr6 said...
- User
- 7 Jan 2008, 19:54
I'm really amazed that the staff insists that a lot of Internet radio stations have faulty tags. WTF?

What stations are you talking about?

I have been listening to Radio Paradise for a LOOONG time and I have yet to see a single incorrect tag! And so far my Squeezebox, and WinAmp, and Amarok, and iTunes, and Quod Libet, and any other music player I've tried have all been able to decipher the tags without a single problem.

So exactly what are these problems that the staff here are referring to?

You guys really need to reconsider this. If it comes to either giving up Radio Paradise or giving up LastFM, LastFM will be dropped so fast your heads will spin!

Count on it!

[quote][b][user]nelamvr6[/user][/b] said: I'm really amazed that the staff insists that a lot of Internet radio stations have faulty tags. WTF? What stations are you talking about? I have been listening to Radio Paradise for a LOOONG time and I have yet to see a single incorrect tag! And so far my Squeezebox, and WinAmp, and Amarok, and iTunes, and Quod Libet, and any other music player I've tried have all been able to decipher the tags without a single problem. So exactly what are these problems that the staff here are referring to? You guys really need to reconsider this. If it comes to either giving up Radio Paradise or giving up LastFM, LastFM will be dropped so fast your heads will spin! Count on it![/quote]

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- juepucta said...
- User
- 7 Jan 2008, 22:00
Radio Paradise is probably the exception to the rule. I have been a listener for years i have yet to see a wrong tag. In that sense you are right.

SomaFM on the other hand is full of wrong tags althought they are constantly fixing them.

It gets worse from there and that is IF they are sending over the track info and not just a station identifier.

-G.

PS: that moderation system they are working on is becoming akin to the chupacabras, Nessie and area 51.

[quote][b][user]juepucta[/user][/b] said: Radio Paradise is probably the exception to the rule. I have been a listener for years i have yet to see a wrong tag. In that sense you are right. SomaFM on the other hand is full of wrong tags althought they are constantly fixing them. It gets worse from there and that is IF they are sending over the track info and not just a station identifier. -G. PS: that moderation system they are working on is becoming akin to the chupacabras, Nessie and area 51.[/quote]

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- jondblackburn said...
- User
- 8 Jan 2008, 19:47
mediamaster

As others have noted, streaming of ones own collection is increasingly popular.

Check out site's such as mediamaster.com

This is my music, which I just happen to listen to remotely from work, etc. so the track info should be as reliable as that from my mp3 collection.

It would be very nice to have these tracks scrobbled, and although, I understand you cannot meet every new feature request - this is one that would be highly desirable to me (and others as well).

Even if it was something I had to manually "turn on" - or that would not show up in the Global last.fm charts (instead only in my listening habits), that would be fine . . .

-JonDBlackburn

[quote][b][user]jondblackburn[/user][/b] said: As others have noted, streaming of ones own collection is increasingly popular. Check out site's such as mediamaster.com This is my music, which I just happen to listen to remotely from work, etc. so the track info should be as reliable as that from my mp3 collection. It would be very nice to have these tracks scrobbled, and although, I understand you cannot meet every new feature request - this is one that would be highly desirable to me (and others as well). Even if it was something I had to manually "turn on" - or that would not show up in the Global last.fm charts (instead only in my listening habits), that would be fine . . . [/quote]

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- Kerensky97 said...
- Moderator
- 9 Jan 2008, 01:07
While I was surfing the site today I found a user that has cracked the code on how to get his internet radio to scrobble (don't ask me how, I don't know). All of these were in his top 10 artists for last week.

XM Radio
CBS
NPR
MSNBC.com copyright 2008 FF-RE
NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM

Frankly if these crept to the top of my charts I'd be in here complaining that should have the ability to remove artists in my charts.

At which point I'd tell myself, "You can remove anything within two weeks of scrobbling it."

Then I'd angrily retort, "It's to late for that! these BS artists should be blocked!"

Then Jester-NL would chime in, "You can block artists by putting them in a folder you don't want to scrobble."

And red faced I'd scream, "I CAN'T BLOCK THEM! IT'S INTERNET RADIO!!!"

And finally I (moderator me) would say, "Thank these guys, they fought long and hard for you to have that ability before last.fm was ready to roll it out."
;)

Post Script. Two of the above artists have already crept into the users overall artists. Luckily they don't visit the site often so they're probably blissfully unaware.

All comments reflect the views of the poster and not of last.fm or it's management.

MusicBrainz How-To - Server StatusScrobbling?

[quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: While I was surfing the site today I found a user that has cracked the code on how to get his internet radio to scrobble (don't ask me how, I don't know). All of these were in his top 10 artists for last week. [artist]XM Radio[/artist] [artist]CBS[/artist] [artist]NPR[/artist] [artist]MSNBC.com copyright 2008 FF-RE[/artist] [artist]NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM[/artist] Frankly if these crept to the top of my charts I'd be in here complaining that should have the ability to remove artists in my charts. At which point I'd tell myself, "You can remove anything within two weeks of scrobbling it." Then I'd angrily retort, "It's to late for that! these BS artists should be blocked!" Then Jester-NL would chime in, "You can block artists by putting them in a folder you don't want to scrobble." And red faced I'd scream, "I CAN'T BLOCK THEM! IT'S INTERNET RADIO!!!" And finally I (moderator me) would say, "Thank [url=http://www.last.fm/forum/34905/_/340809]these guys[/url], they fought long and hard for you to have that ability before last.fm was ready to roll it out." ;) Post Script. Two of the above artists have already crept into the users overall artists. Luckily they don't visit the site often so they're probably blissfully unaware.[/quote]

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- juepucta said...
- User
- 9 Jan 2008, 02:45
Hehe. Podcasts man, podcasts.

-G.

[quote][b][user]juepucta[/user][/b] said: Hehe. Podcasts man, podcasts. -G.[/quote]

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- nelamvr6 said...
- User
- 9 Jan 2008, 20:30
Kerensky97 said:
While I was surfing the site today I found a user that has cracked the code on how to get his internet radio to scrobble (don't ask me how, I don't know). All of these were in his top 10 artists for last week.

XM Radio
CBS
NPR
MSNBC.com copyright 2008 FF-RE
NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM

Frankly if these crept to the top of my charts I'd be in here complaining that should have the ability to remove artists in my charts.

At which point I'd tell myself, "You can remove anything within two weeks of scrobbling it."

Then I'd angrily retort, "It's to late for that! these BS artists should be blocked!"

Then Jester-NL would chime in, "You can block artists by putting them in a folder you don't want to scrobble."

And red faced I'd scream, "I CAN'T BLOCK THEM! IT'S INTERNET RADIO!!!"

And finally I (moderator me) would say, "Thank these guys, they fought long and hard for you to have that ability before last.fm was ready to roll it out."
;)

Post Script. Two of the above artists have already crept into the users overall artists. Luckily they don't visit the site often so they're probably blissfully unaware.

Hey, it's not that we want you to roll it out before you're ready, it's that you're taking entirely too long to make it ready!

Now get busy and get it ready! ;)

OK, I guess I have to concede that there will be some difficulties making this work, but will you concede that there would be merit in scrobbling Internet Radio? I mean, after all, isn't the entire purpose of LastFM tracking what people listen to? As of right now you're not tracking a huge portion of the music I listen to...

[quote][b][user]nelamvr6[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: While I was surfing the site today I found a user that has cracked the code on how to get his internet radio to scrobble (don't ask me how, I don't know). All of these were in his top 10 artists for last week. [artist]XM Radio[/artist] [artist]CBS[/artist] [artist]NPR[/artist] [artist]MSNBC.com copyright 2008 FF-RE[/artist] [artist]NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM[/artist] Frankly if these crept to the top of my charts I'd be in here complaining that should have the ability to remove artists in my charts. At which point I'd tell myself, "You can remove anything within two weeks of scrobbling it." Then I'd angrily retort, "It's to late for that! these BS artists should be blocked!" Then Jester-NL would chime in, "You can block artists by putting them in a folder you don't want to scrobble." And red faced I'd scream, "I CAN'T BLOCK THEM! IT'S INTERNET RADIO!!!" And finally I (moderator me) would say, "Thank [url=http://www.last.fm/forum/34905/_/340809]these guys[/url], they fought long and hard for you to have that ability before last.fm was ready to roll it out." ;) Post Script. Two of the above artists have already crept into the users overall artists. Luckily they don't visit the site often so they're probably blissfully unaware.[/quote] Hey, it's not that we want you to roll it out before you're ready, it's that you're taking entirely too long to make it ready! Now get busy and get it ready! ;) OK, I guess I have to concede that there will be some difficulties making this work, but will you concede that there would be merit in scrobbling Internet Radio? I mean, after all, isn't the entire purpose of LastFM tracking what people listen to? As of right now you're not tracking a huge portion of the music I listen to...[/quote]

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- Kerensky97 said...
- Moderator
- 10 Jan 2008, 00:43
juepucta said:
Hehe. Podcasts man, podcasts.

That's what I thought too (and I'm sure that's how he got the NPR and NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM stuff), but his XM tracks were individual songs with a "artist - track" format for the track ID3. He might be using the same idea as podcasts to get songs off XM. But if they're offing those for individual download RIAA is going to flip, most of the songs were new releases.

I think he just found a way to funnel radio through WMP or something. I'm sure it's a little kludge like but if you can get Pandora to save fully tagged tracks to your hard drive ripping XM radio shouldn't be to hard.

I have to admit I was jealous except the bad tagging. If/when this gets running it would be an awesome way to expand what music you submit.

All comments reflect the views of the poster and not of last.fm or it's management.

MusicBrainz How-To - Server StatusScrobbling?

[quote][b][user]Kerensky97[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]juepucta[/user][/b] said: Hehe. Podcasts man, podcasts. [/quote] That's what I thought too (and I'm sure that's how he got the NPR and NOBODYLIKESONIONS.COM stuff), but his XM tracks were individual songs with a "artist - track" format for the track ID3. He might be using the same idea as podcasts to get songs off XM. But if they're offing those for individual download RIAA is going to flip, most of the songs were new releases. I think he just found a way to funnel radio through WMP or something. I'm sure it's a little kludge like but if you can get Pandora to save fully tagged tracks to your hard drive ripping XM radio shouldn't be to hard. I have to admit I was jealous except the bad tagging. If/when this gets running it would be an awesome way to expand what music you submit.[/quote]

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- paperless_ said...
- User
- 17 Jan 2008, 18:17
I really hope the develoeprs reconsider...i found this thread by a serch on google and im very disapointed about the fact last.fm cant scrobble from radio stations..

Please reconsider...

:P

[quote][b][user]paperless_[/user][/b] said: I really hope the develoeprs reconsider...i found this thread by a serch on google and im very disapointed about the fact last.fm cant scrobble from radio stations.. Please reconsider...[/quote]

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- amrhassan said...
- Subscriber
- 21 Jan 2008, 00:45
i found this after googling too, i was just trying to scrobble an itunes radio, and i gotta tell you this is really frustrating :(

[quote][b][user]amrhassan[/user][/b] said: i found this after googling too, i was just trying to scrobble an itunes radio, and i gotta tell you this is really frustrating :([/quote]

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- bryan986 said...
- User
- 25 Jan 2008, 21:23
Adding my vote to allow scrobble capability for internet radio. Most of the time I only listen to internet radio so I am not able to use last.fm.

bryan986

[quote][b][user]bryan986[/user][/b] said: Adding my vote to allow scrobble capability for internet radio. Most of the time I only listen to internet radio so I am not able to use last.fm.[/quote]

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- esaikku said...
- User
- 12 Feb 2008, 12:26
Scrobbling for Winamp Remote

I would be happy for Scrobbling of Winamp Remote tracks. They don't have tags, but the names are correct because you listen to your own files.

[quote][b][user]esaikku[/user][/b] said: I would be happy for Scrobbling of Winamp Remote tracks. They don't have tags, but the names are correct because you listen to your own files.[/quote]

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- skaniol said...
- User
- 14 Feb 2008, 04:03
Yeah, I was very disappointed with this when I started using last.fm and I am still disappointed . My HDD is small and I don't store all of the music I like to listen so I am either listening to radio stations or file streams but unfortunately they are not counted in my profile so my profile is hugely inaccurate... Is this the purpose of last.fm? With the fast internet these days the streams are very popular way for listening to music so this becomes a problem. Personally I would prefer some wrong tags over no point in using last.fm at all since 80% of the music I listen to won't be scrobbled.

[quote][b][user]skaniol[/user][/b] said: Yeah, I was very disappointed with this when I started using last.fm and I am still disappointed . My HDD is small and I don't store all of the music I like to listen so I am either listening to radio stations or file streams but unfortunately they are not counted in my profile so my profile is hugely inaccurate... Is this the purpose of last.fm? With the fast internet these days the streams are very popular way for listening to music so this becomes a problem. Personally I would prefer some wrong tags over no point in using last.fm at all since 80% of the music I listen to won't be scrobbled.[/quote]

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- said...
- User
- 15 Feb 2008, 18:00
I absolutely look forward to the day where we will be able to scrobb from the online radio station we want. And, I might admit that their songs are bad tagged with the radio name all the time, I would prefer this over anything. Another thing to add would be to implement a string-based filter so I can remove the part of the track that I don't want last.fm client to pick.

Theory of course...

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] said: I absolutely look forward to the day where we will be able to scrobb from the online radio station we want. And, I might admit that their songs are bad tagged with the radio name all the time, I would prefer this over anything. Another thing to add would be to implement a string-based filter so I can remove the part of the track that I don't want last.fm client to pick. Theory of course...[/quote]

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- wsgbane said...
- User
- 19 Feb 2008, 19:36
Winamp Remote

Yea I'm also very disappointed I can't scrobble my music from an Orb application like Winamp Remote, since they are my files. If there's a formal way I can suggest this other than the forums, let me know!

[quote][b][user]wsgbane[/user][/b] said: Yea I'm also very disappointed I can't scrobble my music from an Orb application like Winamp Remote, since they are my files. If there's a formal way I can suggest this other than the forums, let me know![/quote]

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- expertsleepers said...
- User
- 21 Feb 2008, 15:11
Just adding my vote for being able to scrobble internet radio. It's pretty much all I listen to, apart from the odd podcast.

[quote][b][user]expertsleepers[/user][/b] said: Just adding my vote for being able to scrobble internet radio. It's pretty much all I listen to, apart from the odd podcast. [/quote]

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- danny_g said...
- User
- 23 Feb 2008, 12:48
Ditto

And yes, Radio Paradise rocks! :-)
Tags are perfect there. Word.

--
Danny G.

[quote][b][user]danny_g[/user][/b] said: And yes, [url=http://www.radioparadise.com]Radio Paradise[/url] rocks! :-) Tags are perfect there. Word. [/quote]

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- misterpockets said...
- Subscriber
- 25 Feb 2008, 20:53
Winamp Remote

I have also recently started using Winamp remote since I started a contract job away from home. Now over 80% of my music is played via Winamp remote, yet none gets scrobbled, which is a bummer. And like others in this situation, it is 100% my own music, all tagged proper.

It would be great if there was a way to distinguish between music streamed like this and online radio streams.

[quote][b][user]misterpockets[/user][/b] said: I have also recently started using Winamp remote since I started a contract job away from home. Now over 80% of my music is played via Winamp remote, yet none gets scrobbled, which is a bummer. And like others in this situation, it is 100% my own music, all tagged proper. It would be great if there was a way to distinguish between music streamed like this and online radio streams.[/quote]

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- DaveChild said...
- Subscriber
- 4 Mar 2008, 22:34
Sorry for the bump, but I wanted to add my voice to the mix. I listen to StreamingSoundtracks.com, 1980s.fm and a few other online radio stations and would like those tracks included (and lovable) in last.fm.

I appreciate the difficulty in getting the right info into the system, and opening the floodgates may be negative, but ... you can already identify streaming stations - can you not scrobble those tracks and treat them differently to "played" music so that the user still gets the benefits but any bad tagging doesn't affect the data for the community as a whole?

[quote][b][user]DaveChild[/user][/b] said: Sorry for the bump, but I wanted to add my voice to the mix. I listen to StreamingSoundtracks.com, 1980s.fm and a few other online radio stations and would like those tracks included (and lovable) in last.fm. I appreciate the difficulty in getting the right info into the system, and opening the floodgates may be negative, but ... you can already identify streaming stations - can you not scrobble those tracks and treat them differently to "played" music so that the user still gets the benefits but any bad tagging doesn't affect the data for the community as a whole?[/quote]

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- PoofBird said...
- User
- 12 Mar 2008, 09:57
Could it be that the real reason Last.fm isn't scrobbling internet radio, is that those stations are direct competitors?

We use the service primarily to get our listening habit scrobbled, but the company wants people to upload, download and stream music as well. They're a next generation radio station, and probably want us to listen to a last.fm stream (which gets scrobbled no problem) and not to, say, Soma FM.

[quote][b][user]PoofBird[/user][/b] said: Could it be that the real reason Last.fm isn't scrobbling internet radio, is that those stations are direct competitors? We use the service primarily to get our listening habit scrobbled, but the company wants people to upload, download and stream music as well. They're a next generation radio station, and probably want us to listen to a last.fm stream (which gets scrobbled no problem) and not to, say, Soma FM.[/quote]

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