tempo1991 wrote:

the comment below me that is dissing the comment below me is too true... nathanbowlasalad or whatever your name is willing to get himself killed over trying to turn the entire world into one big democracy is wrong, if we just leave them alone the world would be in a less fucked up state than it is at the moment . AND THE UGLY TRUTH THAT YOU CANT SEE IS THAT IF WE TRY AND CHANGE YOUR COUNTRY WOULD YOU FIGHT TO RETAIN YOUR OWN FORM OF FREEDOM AND RIGHTS?

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Aardvarked wrote:

Comment below HAS to be a joke, surely. master187 - Health care, schools and the police system do NOT get enough money in Britain, way to talk out of your ass. If you're that much of a gullible retard to believe the war on Iraq was just and it was about liberating the country's people, have fun with it.

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NathanBolstad wrote:

master187, I 100% agree with you about the war. You should enlist to ensure our victory in spreading democracy: http://www.army.mod.uk/

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superfree wrote:

sometimes when the world pisses me off to the point where i cannot focus or function, I turn these guys up, yell along with them, release that anger. sometimes, just getting it off your chest helps a lot.

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ink_ink wrote:

shup guys enjoy the music

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master187 wrote:

As you are from Britain you should understand that Health care, schools and the police get enough money they just waste it. Look at our public services and you will see that they would be fine with current budgets if they were just more efficient. I am not for "Country first" I was just merely making the point. I know as much about political history as some idiot socialists so I do okay. The US has supported dictators so has Britain, every country has a dark past, does that mean we shouldn't try to fix that past.

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master187 wrote:

First of all, I was interested by the name. Secondly, You can't put the entire definition of fascism of this page, it would be a waste of time. I never said I supported it but as civil rights are granted by state, the state has to survive or no one has freedoms. Saddam committed genocide, did you forget that or did they brainwash me to believe that. Education is a two way street people themselves have to make the effort. State provides schools, they actually do something. The state can only do so much, minorities cannot expect to get everything handed to them. I do not know if the Americans have minimum wage but regardless it is not the exploitation of minorities, it is the uneducated. I was speaking of eliminating the bad regimes rather than its people. There are no figures of innocents killed in Iraq or by whom so I cannot comment on that.

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jerkus wrote:

you guys are fags grats

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sGarrista- wrote:

And if master187 wishes to punish states that terrorize their own citizens, USA really isn't helpful since in the past it has supported many brutal dictators such as Suharto in Indonesia, shah Pahlavi of Iran etc. and continues to do so, in Saudi Arabia for instance.

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Tim010987 wrote:

PS - Yeah Master187, if you don't listen to any rap, why come *here*?? I don't listen to a lot of rap myself, but I like some (DP, Digable Planets, NWA, Gangstarr, EPMD, Brotha Lynch); that's why *I'm* here. But you? Cause you know it's a good place to find Leftists with whom to argue?

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Tim010987 wrote:

Totally. And I find it fitting that you mentioned fascism's "Country first" mantra, cause that's one of McCain's slogans! Whereas Obama's saying is "Si se puede." I think it's obvious which one dreams about holding minorities back. People who can't discern between the two show a rudimentary grasp on politics and sociology.

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Aardvarked wrote:

Just seen you're from the UK, makes your total ignorance to America's political history a little less embarrassing. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't attempt to act like you do or correct people on anything, ever. And you calling somebody else narrow minded is one of the most hypocritical things I've ever read. Out of interest, why are you on this page? Since you don't seem to listen to any hip-hop, it's a little odd. Do you support the BNP by any chance? "Obama will only reinforce the stereotype" - What stereotype is that?

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Aardvarked wrote:

What makes it even funnier is that the us government has aided Saddam for a long time and Bush's father made a huge effort to keep him in power after the Gulf war. Now all of a sudden it is America's duty to liberate the people of Iraq, give me a break. You've been manipulated by your media and your government and now you're a brain dead idiot, congratulations. Seeing as you seem to debate how bad fascism would be, that would suggest you put your country first, correct? Interesting then that you would rather your tax money went into funding an illegal war for oil rather than going into healthcare, education, the police force or improving local areas. And if you want further evidence as to how the US government feels about it's minorities and underprivileged people, look at Katrina. And I mean really look into it, don't just read a fox news report like you seem to do for everything else. People like you are the problem with your country today.

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Aardvarked wrote:

"Saddam was a threat to this world, even if he didn't have WMDs. You are so narrow minded, do the people of Iraq not deserve a decent standard of life." LOL, yeah I'm sure they were incredibly grateful when bombs were dropping on their fucking heads. That war was about nothing but oil and the fact they managed to capture Saddam and brainwash retards like you into thinking the outcome of the war was positive is a joke. If they wanted to help the situation in Iraq they could have done so in a much more controlled way. "We are supposed to be civilized, therefore, should we not eliminate these states who believe it is okay to treat their people as target practice" - How incredibly ironic that you view yourself and your country as civilized and then talking about "eliminating" people because of the actions of their leader, what a douche.

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Aardvarked wrote:

"Fascism is the belief that the state has priority", wrong. I can tell you've just read a one sentence definition and totally misunderstood it. Are you honestly that stupid to not understand why fascism is despicable and would absolutely NOT work in the US? I guess you need to study your history and politics or something, either that or actually look up what fascism is about an what it entails. I didn't make any comments about America exploiting minorities by the way, but the guy who did was totally right. The majority of immigrants are underpaid, overworked and go without benefits and healthcare. Rather than tackle poverty and make an effort to educate people in underprivileged areas, the US government spends billions of dollars on their army, then goes into those areas and recruits young people with no prospects as pawns in their bullshit wars. Do some fucking reading before commenting on social issues.

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master187 wrote:

What the hell made your opinion right, If I am ignorant, so are you. We just sit at opposite sides of the spectrum. Fascism is the belief that the state has priority, Is that really such a bad thing? I am not fascist by the way, i'm just making the point. Foreign policy is just as important as domestic, Saddam was a threat to this world, even if he didn't have WMDs. You are so narrow minded, do the people of Iraq not deserve a decent standard of life. We are supposed to be civilized, therefore, should we not eliminate these states who believe it is okay to treat their people as target practice. I'll tell you what, why don't you throw the word retard around and change your nappy.

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Tim010987 wrote:

Agreed with Aardvarked. The "politicians are all liars" cliche doesn't work here. Look at how Obama came up: civil rights attorney, community activist. McCain: war, war, war. Don't criticize people like Obama who actually try to change the world. We'll get someone who knows how to talk with people before invading their countries, someone who's been donating heavily to Darfur relief, and someone who understands both white AND black people. Fuck the negativity...wake up! OBAMA '08!

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master187 wrote:

Is it retarded because I don't understand you vague comments about minorities being exploited. I believe you'll find its uneducated people being exploited. "for the first time, I am proud of my country" That's what she said when her husband was the first black presidential candidate. Don't you think its a bit racist when your country is only good when they have a black man running for president. JFK's daughter believes in him because they are from the same party, JFK was a terrible president, he was sleeping with women suspected of being spies. Bill Clinton promised change when he came along, Obama's mindset is as old as the party itself. I never said anything about not voting, I merely said he was not the messiah as you believe he is. Obama is pro war he has actually implied that he will nuke Iran. I have a great reason for not voting Obama, I disagree with his policies.

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