Pavement_Saw wrote:

http://www.last.fm/group/hip-hop+is+for+the+white+man

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DeSmAdRe326 wrote:

VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN! Rap de vida.

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Blatunga wrote:

I FUCKING LOVE THIS GUY!!! CANT GET ENOUGH OF HIM!!! MURDEROUS LYRICS!!!!!

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huqmeister wrote:

Check out "Leaving the Past" it's one of his best songs

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neccy60 wrote:

Exactly my point. ^_^

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fueledbyramenx3 wrote:

HIIIII LETS SHARE THE FUCKING LOVE HERE. IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE IS AMAZING, THATS WHAT THIS WALL IS FOR. DONT BRING YOUR OWN DRAMA HERE. ENJOY THE MUSIC, DONT RUIN IT FOR THE REST OF US. THXXXX.

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neccy60 wrote:

And, guess what? Everyone does that.

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Aardvarked wrote:

To say you hate a genre when you've listened to a tiny fraction of it's styles and artists is a lot more retarded than anything I've said. It would be like me saying I hate metal after I've listened to slipknot or trivium.

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neccy60 wrote:

Not that I'm very deep into rap, nor that I ever will be like I am with metal, but you seem to feel that one has to listen to EVERYTHING artist a genre has before having a semblance of a opinion. That's retarded, and you seem intelligent enough to realize that, I would hope.

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neccy60 wrote:

And if I have those assumptions, so what? People are naturally prejudiced against things they don't quite get at first. I used to think all metal was loud noise and worship of Satan once upon a time, too, but because of my willingness to go outside what I just hear, I'm pretty deep into the genre. Now I'm doing the same thing with rap. How is this a bad thing? >>

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Aardvarked wrote:

I clearly wasn't talking to you when I was talking about people thinking they were experts on hip-hop considering you said you normally hated hip-hop. The only reason you're surprised is because your hatred of a genre is based on a couple of videos you've seen on MTV. Hence why I said it seemed as though you were proud of your ignorance.

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neccy60 wrote:

Just noticed... Aardvarked, all I said was that I like the guy, and was surprised that I liked the guy, because i normally dont like rap. THAT MEANS I'M GIVING THIS GUY PROPS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I DETEST THE MAJORITY OF RAP THAT IVE LISTENED TO BEFOREHAND. And I never claimed to be a expert, either, I have no idea where you pulled that shit.

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huqmeister wrote:

HEY pavement_saw "when did Aesop Rock die? " Aesop Rock died as soon as Immortal Technique was born. "Technique is the remedy destroy you before you become what you intended to be and in the future you'll worship the ones that descended from me." -Immortal Technique

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Aardvarked wrote:

The problem with hip-hop isn't the artists, it's the fans. Both sides of the spectrum are as bad as each other. People who listen to Technique, Aesop or whoever else and then start ragging on everyone who listens to other subgenres within hip-hop are just as bad as the dumbfuck billboard fans who listen to nothing but the top 40 and dismiss anything they haven't heard of as being a waste of time - The same type of people who think record sales define a rapper's talent. I don't hate on anyone for listening to any type of music until they start making ignorant claims or they start trying to attack what I listen to. I'm not going to call someone out for saying "I like MF DOOM" (I might point out how little the feeling is reciprocated by doom himself though) but I would take objection to somebody saying "I REALLY LIKE AESOP, HE IS THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME", because it's bullshit. I'm sure people would take exception to people saying the Jonas Brothers are the best group of all time too.

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Aardvarked wrote:

And as far as soulja boy goes, people who rag on him for his dance and shitty lyrics clearly don't understand where hip-hop came from. It was about having fun long before it was about who could rap the best or who had the most positive message. Soulja boy isn't destroying anything, neither is 50 cent or lil' wayne. Lil' Wayne is a very good lyricist although his recent work is kind of shit, his best work is on his mixtapes and his older albums. 50 Cent isn't a problem either, even though hardly any of his fans have even heard them both Power of the dollar & Guess who's back are both very very good NY albums, if he hadn't of been picked up by Eminem, he probably would be regarded as an important NY rapper by now, sort of along the same lines as Cormega. But of course he decided to make music for money rather than for artistic merit (not that I blame him).

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Aardvarked wrote:

I wasn't addressing you, I was complaining about ignorant metalheads who listen to a couple of artists and then think they know the genre well enough to start ragging on people who listen to jay-z, 2pac or whoever else. I mean I've seen people say AOTP were better than the wu on this website, that's the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. You also saw the idiot with the worst facial hair ever try hating on me for listening to Jay-z, he also said Aesop Rock was the greatest rapper alive - go figure. I couldn't care less who listens to the genre, but when some posing prick who only listens to it now the "underground" scene has become trendy starts trying to tell me what is "real" hip-hop, that doesn't fly. There are hundreds of hip-hop artists and groups who are about the music and the lyrics as oppose to solely intent on making money, aesop rock and technique aren't special MCs, they're just increasingly popular amongst nerds and people who listen to music to boost their online image.

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MetalFL0riO86 wrote:

I'm not some metalhead who just started listening to Rap cuz of IT. I've been listening to 2Pac and Wu Tang Since I was a little kid..I just tend to be more into Metal, Classick Rock, Punk, Hardcore..Why does me liking rap to piss you off. I like all genres.

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MetalFL0riO86 wrote:

Asrdvarked..Maybe Metalheads and other music lovers appreciate Guys like Immortal Technique and Aesop Rock because They are truely about the music and lyrics...not about money and mainstream...very similar to most good metal bands out there. Its all about the music and the message..not about making money. I love Technique and Recently Discovered Aesop Rock but that doesn't mean I thnik they are the best. I much rather listen to Mos Def, Talbi Kweli, Jay-Z, 2 Pac, Wu Tang CLan, Biggie, Nas and the list goes on. But IT and Aesop are both very good. Not the best ever but in the league with the better rappers of today. Totally against rap like 50 cent, Soulja boy T.I, Lil Wayne. Who all suck and give rap/black people bad names. If guys like Aesop Rock were mainstream and more peopel knew them..Alot more people wouldn't hate rap. All people who hate rap see guys like 50 cent and it ruins it for the real rappers.

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